7th November 2021
There are some gross incongruities in the world of Police discipline; just ask some of the Police victims.
Over recent years one thing that has stood out in Police discipline meted out by either Vitoria Police Professional Standards Command (PSC) or matters investigated by the now-defunct Office of Police Integrity (OPI) or by the Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission (IBAC) is the blatant contradictions.
Take just two examples.
Most readers will remember the photographing and subsequent distribution of pictures of a well-known football identity arrested for stalking, dressed as a female.
It was interesting how the privacy breach of the stalking perpetrator overshadowed the despicable behaviour of stalking an innocent female victim by the media, IBAC and Police Command, ‘wokeness’ trumps the crime of stalking. The impact of that crime was diluted dramatically except for the victims.
It is important to note that there were many Police tracked and identified as either having received the images or distributed them further.
A raft of sanctions were imposed on those Police, including criminal charges, dismissal, and other penalties. But notably, they were all of lower ranks.
The CAA does not excuse the behaviour but is critical of the disproportionate outcome to the conduct identified.
Particularly when you consider that the offensive material distributed by the police members was targeted and generally remained internal.
Contrast that with former Assistant Commissioner Bret Guerin, the Commissioner in command of the PSC responsible for internal investigations into corruption and other discipline issues distributing vile and offensive comments, a criminal offence, trolling over many years under at least three pseudonyms on public media sites.
Subsequently admitting his guilt publicly in the media after being exposed, not by the corruption watchdog, but the CAA, working with other victims, but he was never charged or disciplined.
It should also be noted that Guerin would have been the primary conduit between IBAC and Victoria Police, and he was involved in criminality, unbelievable.
Critically, however, the main issue is that the Police involved in the distribution of photographs of the stalker under arrest were apparently all identified by the footprints left in the stratosphere of the internet.
Compare that investigation and outcome with the Guerin matter where there does not appear that any effort was applied to track down who the audience of the Troll were, or was it an embarrassment to identify his supporters.
Guerin’s behaviour stands out, and his crimes were substantially aggravated on a number of fronts, not the least his rank in the Victoria Police and his role as the gatekeeper of police discipline.
- Guerin was committing the crime of using a Carriage Service for menacing, harassing or offensive purposes which attracts a penalty of up to three years in jail. He committed this crime on multiple occasions and potentially others like Misconduct in Public Office for somewhere north of six years (that we know about). A recidivist criminal. And we suggest not likely to avoid jail if convicted. But to be convicted, one needs to be charged.
- The first formal complaint that we are aware of was made to the Chief Commissioner VicPol early in 2016, identifying the Internet Protocol Address (ISP) of the computers used to commit the crimes. Guerin left clumsy internet footprints everywhere.
- He initially got to investigate his own complaint.
- We are also aware of other issues related to similar indiscretions by him that, on our estimates, put the cost to taxpayer’s emanating from his blunders in the region of half a million dollars. Still, he gets to keep his super and have all his legal fees covered.
- If he is charged with these offences, the State could not, in good conscience, fund his defence, particularly given the cost he has imposed on the State thus far.
- As distinct from the case of the football identity stalker, no effort was made to identify or track co-conspirators in these Guerin crimes.
- IBAC is satisfied that no influence of the values expressed by Guerin swayed his work. We assume they deduced that by asking the perpetrator, No doubt the perpetrator would be honest and frank on that point.
- He never showed contrition.
- He received no sanction for his offending.
- The exposure of the stalker’s photos was short-lived, but the Guerin matter spanned many years, and it would be unfathomable to believe that there was not an audience with parallel views who Guerin was servicing or to whom he was playing. Because it is without question, being deprived of positive reinforcement and encouragement, this behaviour would have ceased years ago.
- Further aggravating the culpability of Guerin and confirming that his behaviour was no whim, he used three pseudonyms that we are aware of over the years. Vernon Demerest, Clive Howlett-Jones and Grange Calendar the actions of an unrepentant recidivist offender, not just somebody getting ‘a bit excited on a keyboard’, as described by Chief Commissioner at the time, Ashton.
- These crimes required planning, and Guerin would be dealing with these types of offences regularly, making the crimes more egregious and would be well aware of the offences and the penalties. Still, presumably, he, like most crooks, did not expect to get caught, particularly when any complaints would come across his desk.
- It was unbelievable that it was his embarrassingly inane mistakes that led to his exposure. With at least one other deliriously inept misstep by Guerin not publicly exposed.
Perhaps that is because of the who, rather than the what was done.
The CAA has previously expressed concern that there is a real possibility that an enclave of like-minded individuals, his mates, a ‘Jedi Council’, exists in the upper echelons of Police and elsewhere, which is very concerning.
The integrity of the many good officers in the upper echelons needs to be cleared of any suspicion that must indeed exist, that they are tarred with the Guerin brush.
A skilled detective will always rely on the OTT about crime and criminals.
There is no such thing as a coincidence.
Once – It could be a rush of blood, an opportunistic crime, or a random error of judgement. (categorising many of the members distributing the photograph)
Twice– It is not a coincidence; it is a pattern.
Thrice– Entrenched habitual recidivism(categorises Guerin).
It would appear that Guerin can turn on a very effective ‘charm offensive’, which he exercised at IBAC and was noted in their report. It clearly worked for him there. They were conned.
Another experience from practised Investigators,
Criminals invariably use the ‘charm offensive’ for two significant reasons.
Firstly- it may make the process tolerable, and if they can win over the Investigators, there is every chance they will put a good word in for them at court.
Secondly- they hope the investigators will only focus on the crime to hand, and the other offending may not be looked at. Their rationale is that it’s better to go down for what they (the investigators ) know rather than what they find out, as that will cause a whole heap more pain.
It makes you wonder about what Guerin may have been hiding.
The CAA calls on the Government to appoint a special investigator to examine the Guerin matter and determine why he was not charged with a series of criminal offences and whether there is a like-minded enclave.
According to the IBAC report, they seized and gained access to electronic data, so the evidence still exists.
A court should decide his innocence or guilt, not bureaucrats with a vested interest to limit damage or protect others.
Keep up the good work Ivan, it’s good to see the good cops working on having the bad cops charged and put before the courts. IBAC are not doing there job they pick and choice who they investigate even when evidence of Police corruption has been put before them.
Bail Justice George Shinas
…live by the sword die by the sword. Full investigation whereby Guerin is forced to step down and payback all public monies expended so far on this matter…
Travesties of Justice are not limited to harm done to the innocent, they can in fact relate to the failure of the judicial system to take action in direct contradiction to evidence of guilt, as is the situation in this case. Here we have the Command level police Officer responsible for the management of the Victoria Police Ethical Standards Department allegedly committing many offences online over a long period of time, going scott free, collecting his significant superannuation and not even being referred to the DPP or a court for a hearing. Admissions were made by this man on radio that he sent defiling and racist messages under a false name on police computers as well as targeting people attempting to shed light on his illegal deeds. There must be a judicial enquiry into the IBAC decision to let this offender off.
I believe justice should be the main goal regardless of who is being investigated and the law HAS to be implemented at all cost. If a society is to survive (within the laws it has created) it has the responsibility to carry through with the appropriate punishment or incarceration of the perpetrators.
look what happened to a detective years ago l won’t mention the police station who was investigating a footballer who was being investigated for raping a woman that detective had to leave the country along with his family cos of the death threats through his own police station and also the football club. lt was only a few years later that that football player did admit to doing it never being charged but what about the poor detective and his family who had to leave the country.
I would love to agree with ‘Unbelievable!’, but unfortunately, this premier has corrupted this state from top to bottom, including, it would appear, IBAC.
There is nowhere to turn and no one to turn to.
I love what the CAA is doing, but calling on the government to remedy this disgraceful situation, is a total waste of time and we can’t rely on the media as they have been bought as well.
Our only hope is the next election, but the sheeple have been fooled twice by Andrews, and even if the Liberals win, they will be so busy fighting a corrupt bureaucracy and trying to save the state’s economy, these issues will be very low on their agenda.
Yours in despair,
Mr Glanvill has submitted a post that is so accurate but unfortunately the Victorian people well most of them don’t care.
The Labor Party in Victoria have ruled with incompetence and by ideology and as usual it always begins with some new ideas and some visible improvements but as is always the case not long after assuming power over confidence and childlike enthusiasm that they can achieve their goal of socialism it all unravels.
Some people will remember the Kennett years after a slow start Victoria became the State to be in, what do people think of Victoria now?
What the Andrews Labor Party have done to Victoria will take a decade to fix